Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Nightfox to Dr. What on Thu Feb 05 2026 01:37 pm

Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Dr. What to poindexter FORTRAN > Thu Feb 05 2026 06:55 am

There's a new term now: "Getti > DW> Gnomed".

It's when you install one application but it "needs" near > DW> all the Gnome environment loade > DW> to run, whether you use Gnome o >

not.

Yeah, I've noticed some Linux distro > have packages for Gnome support libraries. There are also KDE suppor > libraries as well.

And for UI themes, I've noticed that > even if you aren't using Gnome, some

the installed applications might be

using GTK (the Gnome toolkit); there > are a lot of GTK UI themes that will

get applied to those GTK application > but naturally, applications not

usin > GTK won't get that theme. So you'll > have apps with one UI theme and othe > apps with a different UI theme.

Years ago, I used to like Gnome 2, a > when running in Gnome, all applicati

would look consistent with the same

theme. But that doesn't seem to be > case anymore with other desktop environments.

One thing I've noticed is that KDE Plasma uses Qt, which is a cross-platform GUI framework that I' > heard is considered one of the best > most popular (and wxWidgets being
another one). Qt is available for Windows too, so theoretically, a program written using the Qt GUI framework (probably especially with C++) would probably be able to be bu > and run for both Linux and Windows w > few modifications. I've done some C > development using wxWidgets and that > was one of the advantages of wxWidge > as well.

Nightfox

I prefer XFCE4 to KDE or Gnome. I use Slackware and Gnome seems to be a lot slower.

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Lumni1968 to Nightfox on Sun Mar 08 2026 04:29 pm

I prefer XFCE4 to KDE or Gnome. I use
Slackware and Gnome seems to be a lot
slower.

I like XFCE, though if you have a high-resolution monitor (maybe 1440p or 4K), it seems XFCE's scaling isn't the greatest. I don't think it offers fractional scaling (you could do 2x scaling with it, but then everything could look too big). I gave XFCE a try on my main PC, but I found that Cinnamon looked better, and I think KDE Plasma looks even better. Also, it seems KDE Plasma is able to scale some applications that still looked small & hard to read in Cinnamon, such as Zoom (for online video meetings). At least, it seems that way in my experience.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Nightfox to Lumni1968 on Sun Mar 08 2026 05:18 pm

Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Lumni1968 to Nightfox on Sun M > 08 2026 04:29 pm

I prefer XFCE4 to KDE or Gnome. > Lu> use
Slackware and Gnome seems to be > Lu> lot
slower.

I like XFCE, though if you have a high-resolution monitor (maybe 1440p > 4K), it seems XFCE's scaling isn't t > greatest. I don't think it offers fractional scaling (you could do 2x scaling with it, but then everything > could look too big). I gave XFCE a > on my main PC, but I found that Cinnamon looked better, and I think > Plasma looks even better. Also, it seems KDE Plasma is able to scale so > applications that still looked small

hard to read in Cinnamon, such as Zo > (for online video meetings). At

lea > it seems that way in my experience.

Nightfox

I keep mine at 2560x1080. It works pretty well. I used to use KDE4, but Iwanted something that ran faster (I'm
still using an I920 at 2.67Ghz and 16GBof ram).

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Lumni1968 to Nightfox on Sun Mar 08 2026 04:29 pm

I prefer XFCE4 to KDE or Gnome. I use Slackware and Gnome seems to be a lot slower.

if you ever want super light, try something like openbox.

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: phigan to Lumni1968 on Tue Mar 10 2026 01:45 pm

Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Lumni1968 to Nightfox on Sun M > 08 2026 04:29 pm

I prefer XFCE4 to KDE or Gnome. > > use Slackware and Gnome seems to

a lot slower.

if you ever want super light, try something like openbox.

I might have to check that out.

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Lumni1968 wrote to phigan <=-

I prefer XFCE4 to KDE or Gnome. > > use Slackware and Gnome seems to

> a lot slower.

if you ever want super light, try
something like openbox.

I might have to check that out.

I estimate it will take you about.... 12 seconds to decide that it's
*WAY* too light.




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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Lumni1968 to phigan on Wed Mar 11 2026 11:50:40

I prefer XFCE4 to KDE or Gnome. > > use Slackware and Gnome seems to > > a lot slower > > if you ever want super light, try something like openbox.

I might have to check that out.

Good thing you folks are still on the machines that are cool with X11. Try stuff on some Surface tablets or perhaps also other kinds of Intel IGP and you may run into issues that may be related tohow we switched from (known to be buggy in a different way) xf86-video-intel kind of drivers to
plain mesa modeset because no one wanted to maintain the X11 mess anymore and the new stack seemed superior, but then everyone now only maintains Wayland and we can only hope for X11 support to improve again once Wayback grows to become a backbone of it all.

Currently if you try using the Wayland variant of XFCE4 it is not just experimental, but the version shipped with even Fedora is from before all the improvements on Wayland were made - so Xfce(Wayland) runs there as just a labwc with decorated misplaced windows with panel content, with all
features of labwc working without a single customization.

And on X11 if you just grab a monitor/laptop that's HiDPI, you will find having to set large pixel size of everything on a panel in XFCE very unwieldy, for example. Configuring stuff like Openbox, FVWM, or whatever, for HiDPI, is a PITA.

Then you grab a Wayland compositor/DE and enable scaling (whether fractional or not) and suddenly the xterm is all blurry due to scaling Ä- whereas it will look great on Windows Subsystem for Linux
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