Re: Re: Angels and demons
By: jimmylogan to Boraxman on Tue Aug 05 2025 04:32 pm

Just to make sure I follow your train of thought, you mean the
culture that created the idea that we should be held accountable?
Or that there is a God that is above that? I want to know what you
So I ask again, are you saying that NO ONE should be judged
at all?

I'm saying that the Middle Eastern Semite culture created this idea, so it is a reflection of their values.

The point is that we are all 'guitly' - and God in the form of man,
Jesus the Christ, took the punishment for all that guilt. You say
He takes no responsibility - but I say He took the ULTIMATE
responsibility and took the punishment, the weight, the suffering.

And then He STILL loves you enough to let you decide if you want to
accept the pardon offered or not.

Again, this makes no sense. This is from Middle Eastern Semitic thinking. IT makes as much sense as people today saying that White people need to be held responsible for what happened in the past, for things we didn't do.

It's an awful, self-hating ideology, and it does not come from God.

No human being deserves to burn for one day, let alone eternity, for

Two questions - 1) where do you get the moral ground to say that
no one should have to pay for thier sin?

2) Are you equating 'morraly righteous' and terrible acts with
the actual teachings of Jesus?

I get it from myself. God is going to burn me for eternity, for something I DIDNT DO. Well, since I don't believe this is actually the case, I don't see it as a reflection of God, but of the people who think this is just.

YOU are saying this is just, so YOU believe this. It is YOU who is passing on moral accountability and responsibility.

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Jimmy,

Have you considered that hell is a choice? If someone says, "I don't
want to have anything to do with a God that would do this" is
basically getting their wish?

In that regard, "God is being a Gentleman"...giving folks what they
want.

The point is that we are all 'guitly' - and God in the form of
man, Jesus the Christ, took the punishment for all that guilt.
You say He takes no responsibility - but I say He took the
ULTIMATE responsibility and took the punishment, the weight,
the suffering.

And then He STILL loves you enough to let you decide if you
want to accept the pardon offered or not.

Folks resent the fact that "It's God's Creation, and it's His
Rules". Yet, as the Apostle Paul noted in 1 Corinthians 1:18, "The
Preaching Of The Cross is to them who perish (die in their sins),
foolishness and stupidity. But to the saved, it is the Power of
Almighty God".

As the late Hal Lindsey noted, "If the believers ON Jesus, and NOT
just IN Him are wrong...the most we'll lose are a few petty sins,
which don't make anyone happy, anyway. But, if the unbeliever is
wrong...they will spend eternally paying the debt...that they gambled
with their soul, and lost it!!".

In short, one day, we will know who is right.

The one thing God requires is to "believe on The One He has sent".
Yet, He does give each of us free will and choice to say YES or NO.
Basically, it takes no decision on anyone's part to go to Hell...but,
it DOES take a decision on one's part to go to Heaven.

At a church service years ago, this individual shouted out "I wish
God would give me what I deserve!!"...and the preacher retorted "You
had better be careful in what you ask...He just might do it". If all
of us got what we deserve, we would've been stamped out of existence
long ago.

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to jimmylogan <=-

Jimmy,

Hey Daryl! Haven't heard from you in a long time! Hope
you are well!

Have you considered that hell is a choice? If someone says, "I don't
want to have anything to do with a God that would do this" is
basically getting their wish?

In that regard, "God is being a Gentleman"...giving folks what they want.

Yep!

The point is that we are all 'guitly' - and God in the form of
man, Jesus the Christ, took the punishment for all that guilt.
You say He takes no responsibility - but I say He took the
ULTIMATE responsibility and took the punishment, the weight,
the suffering.

And then He STILL loves you enough to let you decide if you
want to accept the pardon offered or not.

Folks resent the fact that "It's God's Creation, and it's His
Rules". Yet, as the Apostle Paul noted in 1 Corinthians 1:18, "The Preaching Of The Cross is to them who perish (die in their sins), foolishness and stupidity. But to the saved, it is the Power of
Almighty God".

Agreed!!!


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Jimmy,

Hey Daryl! Haven't heard from you in a long time! Hope
you are well!

First, as the meme notes "I'm only one step away from being rich...
all I need is money". <G>

Second, after my younger brother's suicide just over 14 months ago,
and ending up with a panic attack/nervous breakdown, that put me in
the psychiatric ward for a week, I'm doing better.

... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly

I'm a victim of coicumstance. Time to do "The Curly Shuffle", and
look at the grouse!! Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! <BG>

Daryl

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