On 8/4/2025 6:51 PM, MRO wrote to COUGAR428:

everyone knows that vaping is bad for your lungs.
they just dont want to admit it.
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Re: Re: Smoking
By: Robert Wolfe to MRO on Thu Aug 28 2025 01:40 am

On 8/4/2025 6:51 PM, MRO wrote to COUGAR428:

everyone knows that vaping is bad for your lungs.
they just dont want to admit it.
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Oooh. We agree on something :)

Vaping and smoking are both bad... I still do both, one habit I haven't able to break. Ah well, easying my way from this side of the ground to the other. :)

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: Jon Justvig to Robert Wolfe on Fri Aug 29 2025 02:27 am

Vaping and smoking are both bad... I still do both, one
habit I haven't able to break. Ah well, easying my way from
this side of the ground to the other. :)

Smoking is the hardest thing to quit. It's a physical and emotional
addiction.

You will always want to smoke. If you have friends that smoke and you are around them it makes it impossible to quit.

You never really quit smoking. You just stop.
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Re: Re: Smoking
By: MRO to Jon Justvig on Fri Aug 29 2025 11:01 am

Smoking is the hardest thing to quit. It's a physical and emotional addiction.

You will always want to smoke. If you have friends that smoke and you are around them it makes it impossible to quit.

You never really quit smoking. You just stop.

Much of my immediate family (including my parents) and their friends smoked when I was growing up. I didn't like it, and anyone who smoked always told me it was a bad idea, so I never started. My mom had a heart attack in 2014 and she decided to just stop smoking. My dad had a bad cold years ago and said he couldn't really smoke because he'd cough too much, and he was also sleeping a lot; he said he slept through much of his withdrawals, and he decided to stop smoking after that. I'm glad they stopped smoking.. These days, I don't know very many people who smoke anymore.

It seems almost weird now to think I remember when smoking was legal basically everywhere, including inside grocery stores & supermarkets & such. People used to be buying grocery store produce that had been exposed to cigarette smoke in the store.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Aug 29 2025 12:38 pm

smoking after that. I'm glad they stopped smoking.. These days, I don't kn very many people who smoke anymore.

It is pretty nice that so many people have stopped.. except for bums like me who just like the occassional cig. It used to be that you could look around (or later, go outside and look around) to find someone smoking that you could bum a cig off of :). Not anymore.

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: MRO to Jon Justvig on Fri Aug 29 2025 11:01 am

Smoking is the hardest thing to quit. It's a physical and emotional addiction.

You will always want to smoke. If you have friends that smoke and you are around them it makes it impossible to quit.

You never really quit smoking. You just stop.

Much of my immediate family (including my parents) and their friends smoked when I was growing up. I didn't like it, and anyone who smoked always told me it was a bad idea, so I never started. My mom had a
heart attack in 2014 and she decided to just stop smoking. My dad had
a bad cold years ago and said he couldn't really smoke because he'd
cough too much, and he was also sleeping a lot; he said he slept
through much of his withdrawals, and he decided to stop smoking after that. I'm glad they stopped smoking.. These days, I don't know very
many people who smoke anymore.

I remember my parents smoking, but also remember them quitting when I
was fairly young. I did smoke myself for a few years, but quit LONG
ago.

It seems almost weird now to think I remember when smoking was legal basically everywhere, including inside grocery stores & supermarkets & such. People used to be buying grocery store produce that had been exposed to cigarette smoke in the store.

Yup, recall that too, and in restaurants while you're trying to eat.
I'm old enough to even remember people smoking on airplanes. The rear 1/3
or so of the seating was for smokers, as if there was a magic barrier that
kept the smoke from coming forward into the rest of the cabin. Not cool at all, but at that time it was a "normal" thing. Seems very strange to me now.



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MRO wrote to Jon Justvig <=-

Vaping and smoking are both bad... I still do both, one
habit I haven't able to break. Ah well, easying my way from
this side of the ground to the other. :)

Smoking is the hardest thing to quit. It's a physical and emotional addiction.

This is true.

You will always want to smoke. If you have friends that smoke and you
are around them it makes it impossible to quit.

I smoked for a few years, and quit LONG ago. I have ZERO desire to
smoke now, and am positive that I never will again. It's not true that
you "will always want to smoke".

You never really quit smoking. You just stop.

That doesn't really make any sense. Quitting and stopping are the same
thing. I quit without all that much trouble - used the nicotine patches
on the arm for a few weeks to come down from it.



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Re: Re: Smoking
By: phigan to Nightfox on Fri Aug 29 2025 02:24 pm

Re: Re: Smoking
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Aug 29 2025 12:38 pm
It is pretty nice that so many people have stopped.. except for bums like me who just like the occassional cig.

I could not do that... if I were to smoke one, I would be smoking again. And I haven't smoked since 2008. (I did vape for about a year but stopped in 2020.) I miss it every minute of every day.

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: Bf2k+ to phigan on Fri Aug 29 2025 06:52 pm

I could not do that... if I were to smoke one, I would be smoking again.

The cravings still come once in a while, and I just let them pass. Once in a while, though, like when I'm really hungry, a smoke feels really good :). I think I go through a pack a month, or a little longer.

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Hello Nightfox!

** On Friday 29.08.25 - 12:38, Nightfox wrote to MRO:

It seems almost weird now to think I remember when smoking
was legal basically everywhere, including inside grocery
stores & supermarkets & such. People used to be buying
grocery store produce that had been exposed to cigarette
smoke in the store.

And.. not to mention the ashes from the cigs onto produce. But
I think most smokers butted out before entering.


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Aside: I've noticed more people now buying the large popcorn
container
with free refills and taking popcorn home with them after the
movie.
I'd think one or two refills while you're at the theater would
suffice.

Would you like some soda with your ice, or some popcorn with
your butter and salt?? <G>

Daryl

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Mike,

I agree for the most part. That said, some of the things that
people intentionally do to their bodies do ultimately cost us
all. I would think even more so in countries that have
socialized medicine.

I don't lecture folks on doing the vices (smoking, drinking, etc.).
They know the risks and the consequences, and only they can make the
choice to quit...as hard as it may be.

I'm reminded of an old B.C. comic strip, where one character says
to the other "I've discovered something about the nicotine patches.
If you roll them too tight, they won't light". <G>

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Mick,

A friend of mine told me that a friend of his told him that
eating popcorn will give you popcorn farts. I can see the
comparibility of both now.

It is a good source of fiber to keep your digestive tract
"regular".

I would get the microwave popcorn with extra butter.

Daryl


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Not sure I've ever had popcorn farts... but I never noticed
that cabbage farts were a thing until someone else pointed it
out.

There was a commercial years ago, I think done by Tractor Supply
Company.

This family is sitting down for dinner, and their dog is laying
down under the table. The father is asking the blessing on the
meal (it wasn't Archie Bunker's 'Bless the meat, damn the skin,
open your kisser, and cram it in!!'), and soon as he says "Amen!",
the dog bounds away from under the table, like he has spotted his
hunting quarry.

It turns out that the family is eating all these "fart producing
foods" (beans, cabbage, legumes, etc.), which would cause "a green
haze afterwards". :P

The dog bounds up the stairs and into the bedrooms. He opens the
dresser drawers and starts digging around. After several drawers,
he finally finds what he is looking for...a gas mask!!

He runs down stairs with it on him (I'd like to know how he put
it on himself), then lays back down under the table. Then, the
announcer comes in, and says "We have what you need". <G>

It's also like the meme, where the dog is standing on the chest
of his owner, and he growls "If you quit snoring, I'll quit
farting". <G>

Everyone, male and female, man and beast does it...from as little
at 15 times a day, to as much as 20 times an hour (I'd like to know
how much of our tax money was used to determine that).

Two years before my wife died (she has been gone 18 1/2 years now),
she and I were "intimately occupied" on the Futon bed, and our
dachshund was in his bed on the floor next to us. All of a sudden,
this horrid stench permeated our nostrils...the dog had dropped a
silent but deadly SBD methane bomb fart!! I started gagging, and
my wife was laughing uncontrollably, saying "You know he's down
there thinking 'Hee hee hee. Ignore my @$$, will you??!!'".

Any love making went out the window, and I had to get dressed,
and take the little booger out for a walk. My guess was that he
was mad that he wasn't getting our full attention, and was spoiled
(as most pets are). But to many folks, their pets are their kids.

Daryl

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Jon,

Vaping and smoking are both bad... I still do both, one habit I
haven't able to break. Ah well, easying my way from this side
of the ground to the other. :)

The only thing I want smoking or steaming is the food on my
dinner plate...like sizzling fajitas. <G>

Daryl

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Yup, recall that too, and in restaurants while you're trying to
eat. I'm old enough to even remember people smoking on
airplanes. The rear 1/3 or so of the seating was for smokers,
as if there was a magic barrier that kept the smoke from coming
forward into the rest of the cabin. Not cool at all, but at
that time it was a "normal" thing. Seems very strange to me
now.

I believe that if you want to smoke when you're traveling, that
you drive yourself. You can NOT smoke on the train, plane, or bus.

While Amtrak does offer smoke break stops (if the train is on
time or early), if you're caught smoking on the train (especially
if you're under age), you're put off the train at the next town,
whether it's your stop or not...and they will likely get local
law enforcement to remove you.

I remember on one trip years ago that east of El Paso, at Sierra
Blanca, Texas...a 16 year old kid was caught smoking. They stopped
the train, and had law enforcement remove him. His ticket was
confiscated, his reservation was canceled, and he was on his own
to get to his destination.

Years ago, in a bowling league, the cigarette smoke in there was
so thick, that you thought that you were getting cancer of the
eyeballs!! You could hardly see the lane or the pins, it was that
bad!!

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to Gamgee <=-

Yup, recall that too, and in restaurants while you're trying to
eat. I'm old enough to even remember people smoking on
airplanes. The rear 1/3 or so of the seating was for smokers,
as if there was a magic barrier that kept the smoke from coming
forward into the rest of the cabin. Not cool at all, but at
that time it was a "normal" thing. Seems very strange to me
now.

I believe that if you want to smoke when you're traveling, that
you drive yourself. You can NOT smoke on the train, plane, or bus.

While Amtrak does offer smoke break stops (if the train is on
time or early), if you're caught smoking on the train (especially
if you're under age), you're put off the train at the next town,
whether it's your stop or not...and they will likely get local
law enforcement to remove you.

I remember on one trip years ago that east of El Paso, at Sierra
Blanca, Texas...a 16 year old kid was caught smoking. They stopped
the train, and had law enforcement remove him. His ticket was
confiscated, his reservation was canceled, and he was on his own
to get to his destination.

Years ago, in a bowling league, the cigarette smoke in there was
so thick, that you thought that you were getting cancer of the
eyeballs!! You could hardly see the lane or the pins, it was that
bad!!

I've never actually had the pleasure of riding on an Amtrak train -
something I'd like to do one day.

I've certainly been in a few smoky bowling allies, and agree that it's
out of control. At least it used to be, haven't been bowling in years.
I think in general though, society has turned away from smoking in a big
way. I don't really see it very often any more, in fact.



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I've never actually had the pleasure of riding on an Amtrak
train - something I'd like to do one day.

I would love to do it...but I'm only one step away from being
rich enough to book the trip...all I need is money. <G>

I've certainly been in a few smoky bowling allies, and agree
that it's out of control. At least it used to be, haven't been
bowling in years. I think in general though, society has turned
away from smoking in a big way. I don't really see it very
often any more, in fact.

I have a bowling game on my smartphone, and some bowling doors
on the BBS. Otherwise, that's the only bowling I do anymore, but
this tagline comes to mind. <G>

Daryl

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On 03 Sep 2025, Daryl Stout said the following...

I have a bowling game on my smartphone, and some bowling doors
on the BBS. Otherwise, that's the only bowling I do anymore, but
this tagline comes to mind. <G>

duno if you're into emulators, or non-bbs gaming in general, but i highly recommend the Super Nintendo game "Super Bowling" :)

i think it's the best one for home consoles, perhaps other than Wii Bowling (i prefer the plain old game controller). i've played it two player with random people and they don't hate me for it hehe

honorable mention for Nestor's Bowling for the Virtual Boy. i wouldn't even play it on a real device but if your emulator can swap the colors for grayscale it's neat :)

you'd think "hey Playstation/N64/etc must be nice right?" .. if you're interested in the topic there's some youtube videos demoing a lot of them.. they're BADDDD lol

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: fusion to Daryl Stout on Thu Sep 11 2025 12:00 pm

duno if you're into emulators, or non-bbs gaming in general, but i highly recommend the Super Nintendo game "Super Bowling" :)

i think it's the best one for home consoles, perhaps other than Wii Bowling (i prefer the plain old game controller). i've played it two player with random people and they don't hate me for it hehe

I haven't tried that bowling game, but I might check it out.. I do like the Wii Sports bowling. I'm not sure if I'd like playing a bowling game with a traditional game controller though.. However, I do sometimes like playing sports video games (usually baseball), even though I rarely watch actual sports games.

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I wouldn't know, as soon as they stopped calling it "Butter" I stopped
having it put on my popcorn.

First it was butter, then it was "butter flavor", now they call it
"popcorn topping".

Aside: I've noticed more people now buying the large popcorn container
with free refills and taking popcorn home with them after the movie.
I'd think one or two refills while you're at the theater would suffice.

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I remember some Theaters got Air Poppers machines many years ago.
I still like that idea so I use a Popcorn popper that goes in the mcrowave oven.
1/3rd Cup of popcorn, 3 and a half minutes then in the BIG BOWL.
I don't evenadd Salt to it.
So I eat it Generic!
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Re: Re: Smoking
By: Ed Vance to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 12 2025 12:07

I remember some Theaters got Air Poppers machines many years ago. I
still like that idea so I use a Popcorn popper that goes in the
mcrowave oven. 1/3rd Cup of popcorn, 3 and a half minutes then in the
BIG BOWL. I don't evenadd Salt to it. So I eat it Generic! Ed

get a chinese pressure cooker for popcorn.

https://i.imgur.com/YPnRjFh.png


if you watch this video they goofed it up i think.

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: Ed Vance to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 12 2025 12:07

get a chinese pressure cooker for popcorn.

https://i.imgur.com/YPnRjFh.png

if you watch this video they goofed it up i think.

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The microwave popcorn popper I have is made by Presto.
Wouldn't want to use a Pressure Cooker, Chinese or otherwise.
I think what I use pops corn quicker than trying the heat that pressure cooker. 3 1/2 minutes in a 1000 Watt microwave oven suits me.

The Presto popper uses a paper insert, but it can be used several times before throwing it away and placing another one in the plastic container.

Bought several packs of the paper inserts years ago and still have a bunch of packs.

My original Presto unit lasted for years, can't recall why I bought the second one I use now.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I will continue using the popper I have.
Ed
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